Free Yourself From Fear…
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You are listening to the Confident Careerist podcast, providing inspiration and guidance for career-minded professionals who want to break free from their limitations and step into a life of more personal power, positivity, and prosperity.
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My brave new friend Jennifer has picked up skills in all areas and roles in her life as a parent, wife, friend, professional, you name it. And one day she decided she wanted to have a broader reach and help people overcome their fears and choose how she wanted to spend her time and live her life on her terms. Overcoming fear, reinventing yourself, embracing your passions and, living a life on purpose is the theme of today's conversation.
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Jennifer empowers us to put our fears where they belong so we can move on and turn our passion into action. What is your relationship with fear? What if you could get to the bottom of your fear so that you can conquer it rather than avoid it? Jennifer talks about how critical it is to put your fear in your friend zone so that you can have a relationship with fear and learn to use it to grow into your fullest potential.
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Jennifer has a very powerful definition of fear, based on her own experience, and that is, "Fear is the ruthless thief that creeps into the back of your mind at the height of inspiration and robs you blind." Let's dive in.
[00:01:54.100] - Teena Evert
Welcome back to the Confident Careerist podcast today I have a very special guest. Her name is Jennifer Mauerer and she is an established certified life coach and a collegiate admissions consultant and author of 5 Steps to Freedom from Fear: A Simple Guide to removing the obstacles that prevent us from realizing our fullest potential.
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Jennifer has worked with clients across the United States in the corporate and private sector, mentoring on topics such as the power of reinvention, overcoming fear and procrastination, and finding your passion principles. Jennifer currently resides in Chicago, Illinois. So welcome, Jennifer. I'm so excited for our conversation today.
[00:02:39.640] - Jennifer Maurer
Thanks so much, Teena. It is a pleasure to be here. I've been looking forward to this all week.
[00:02:43.960] - Teena Evert
Me too. So you have a lot of juicy topics here, ones that I can relate to and I'm sure our listeners can as well, particularly around overcoming fear and procrastination, reinventing ourselves, finding our passion, all these great things. So I'd love to start out with just hearing a little bit about your career story, your career journey.
[00:03:08.690] - Jennifer Maurer
Yeah, it's been an interesting, a long, and winding road, I guess, as they say, and I kind of, you know, and reflecting back and I kind of break it down into three phases, if you will. I call it the yearling phase, the yuppy phase and the reinvent phase.
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Early early on in my career, I considered myself kind of a yearling. I was brand new, you know, very green, not a lot of experience, hadn't really stepped into my confidence yet and was learning everything for the first time. So, you know, during that stage of my career, I was in business. I was working in an office and just kind of learning everything I could, flying under the radar. And I was probably taken advantage of a little bit.
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I was probably not paid as well as I could have been for many years, actually, too many years. And then I kind of moved into what I call my yuppie phase. And that's when I really kind of started to step into my own confidence. I started to feel better about some things I had learned some lessons I had learned and really applied myself. I had a good work ethic. I always did.
[00:04:17.120] - Jennifer Maurer
And as a result of that, I was able to yield some nice positions. I was really independent. By the age of 29, I was vice president of one of the fifth largest or the fifth-largest lenders in the US. I was really proud of that. And that was at a time when women really didn't - they weren't prevalent in those roles as much as they are now, although I will say the industry I was in was a little bit friendlier towards women in management than most, but it was still, just a little tough.
[00:04:52.530] - Jennifer Maurer
So so I kind of worked myself to that level and really, again, continue to learn and grow. And then I took a pause. I got married in my early 30's and I was raising my children. I was fortunate enough to be a stay-at-home mom and enjoyed every second of that.
[00:05:13.610] - Jennifer Maurer
And then after several years of raising my kids, being married, then life throws us some curve balls? Right. So my husband and I separated.
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He moved to Texas to start his own business. And so I kind of found myself in a position of, OK, it's time to kind of reinvent Jennifer.
[00:05:36.050] - Jennifer Maurer
And yeah, it was kind of like one of those situations where everything changed within just a couple of months. Right. So my mother had passed away, who was my rock. She really was. And so I had lost her. My daughter was going off to college. So for the first time in her life, she was separating from us. She was about four hours away.
[00:06:00.530] - Jennifer Maurer
My ex-husband now had moved out to Texas and my son was just entering high school. So there was a lot of things going on. There was a lot of mourning, I want to say, because having lost my mother, my husband and I separated, I was mourning the loss of my marriage. I was kind of mourning, not the loss of my daughter because it was wonderful she went to college, but not having her around the house anymore, it was quite an adjustment.
[00:06:27.200] - Jennifer Maurer
I really then had to say to myself, OK, now what? You know, now we're looking at totally reinventing ourselves after being out of the workforce for several years. And it was a whole new ball game. So that's when I kind of went into getting back out there into the workforce and so I understand the struggles that are associated with that, especially when you've been out for a while and you do doubt your abilities, you kind of forget who you were as that business person, right? You know, you are as a mom and as a wife and a friend and a daughter, but you forget who you were in the business world. So I had to kind of reinvent all that.
[00:07:00.490] - Teena Evert
And I just want to say it's unfortunate that women cannot put on their resume that they were a full time mother. Right?
[00:07:07.540] - Jennifer Maurer
[00:07:09.670] - Teena Evert
I wish that we could, because it's - well, it's definitely personal growth and development. You're learning skills, you're getting life experience and somehow it can become an obstacle when we have been out of work. So anyway, I'm curious to hear how you overcame that in your story.
[00:07:33.970] - Jennifer Maurer
Yeah, well, it's kind of interesting that you mention that because there are so many skills that you pick up as a parent. I mean, they talk about if you were to pay a stay at home mom, you know, if you added up all the roles that she plays, chauffeur, psychologist, teacher, doctor, you know, all these kind of things come out of like six hundred thousand dollars a year - this is what they came out with. And on the flipside of that, raising my kids has also helped me in the business world - learning how to deal with people.
[00:08:03.790] - Jennifer Maurer
So how did I overcome this? I got to tell you, it was tough. I mean, in the beginning, I think I kind of went back to the yearling stage. I had to start off kind of, you know, low man on the totem pole again. And I moved quickly out of that. They said the muscle memory, that's kind of like muscle memory. Then I kind of moved into the yuppie stage and I got pretty established. And then I realized, you know what, I'm taking it a step further this time. You know, when you get older, here's here's the luxury of getting older. You care less and less. You're not as frightened as you are, I think when you're younger to take risks and to try something new. And I just thought, you know, life is short. And I think, how am I going to spend the of rest 20 years of my life?
[00:08:46.960] - Jennifer Maurer
You know, I want to want to do something where I get to choose. I don't necessarily have to punch a clock and I want to help people. That's the other thing. I want to have a broader reach. And so that's when I decided to really study coaching. The job I had been doing prepared me well for coaching. I was coaching basically, but I thought, you know, why don't I move into an arena where I can select the topics and the clients and really, really hone in on things.
[00:09:16.990] - Jennifer Maurer
That's been very liberating. I feel like because I've decided to do things on my own, it's a lot tougher in many respects, there is a lot more responsibility it's a little freakier, but the rewards are tremendous.
[00:09:29.560] - Teena Evert
And so now you're doing two different things. You're working, doing some consulting at a college and really helpin h- elpingI bet that's so rewarding - really helping people see clarity and find their path. And then you're also running your own business as a certified life and career coach, is that right?
[00:09:48.640] - Jennifer Maurer
Correct. Correct. I get to work with students or potential students who are trying to find - I'm not talking necessarily about young 18 year olds fresh out of high school - these are people that are in their 20s or 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, that, for whatever reason, feel like pursuing an education is going to get them kind of from point A to point B in their lives. They've hit a glass ceiling. And so I get to really work with them to say, let's go back to basics and find out what your what is your passion? What do you think the best degree program might be for you, not what's going to make you the most money or what everybody's telling you to do. Let's really break it down. So in that respect, yeah, I get a great deal of gratification out of helping them kind of select that that path.
[00:10:33.040] - Teena Evert
Yeah, it's very empowering, I think, to be in a position where you really feel like you are choosing the path that you want to be on and I always have felt that education is power. That was one thing that motivated me when I was younger. I really wanted to experience something differently than the small town I grew up in Ohio and education was sort of my ticket. So I worked hard to get into college. and then when I got to college, that was a success.I got there, but then I had to learn a whole other slew of skills to be able to work - life skills to to manage myself being away for the first time. So whatever stage we're at, it seems, you know, our ability to be flexible and adaptable and I guess be able to have the courage to face obstacles and overcome fear is is never going to really go away like that. I just turned 50 and I'm still having to deal with that. Like it's just part of life. It's part of life and claiming the lead in my business, you know, claiming the lead, being in the driver's seat takes courage and it's something that I actually had to learn.
[00:11:52.460] - Teena Evert
So many times I was either in the passenger seat being driven around to places I didn't want to go or in the back seat or even maybe feeling like I was locked in the trunk in that victim mindset. And the work that you do and I do, I feel like we're in such a great position to ask those powerful questions of people and help really guide them on a path that's just more purposeful and I love it - like finding your passion principles is a book I think you're working on, is that right?
[00:12:24.860] - Jennifer Maurer
It is, Iit's my next book. It's a work in progress. I'm having a great deal of fun writing it. I think it's a natural progression from dealing with our fears and managing our fears once we're able to do that I think the next step then is to kind of determine our passion and then pursue the passion. It's turning the passion into action.
[00:12:50.980] - Jennifer Maurer
You know, everybody says, Oh find your passion, find your passion. That's great. I mean, you can have a passion, but if you don't know how to convert that passion into an actualization through action, it doesn't do you youmuch good.
[00:13:02.890] - Teena Evert
Well said and we had a prior conversation where we touched on this, where if we are in a state of overwhelm or fear - if we're really in a place where we need our basic needs met and someone asked you what you're passionate about, it might be really hard to even tap into that or tap into what is it that brings you pleasure because you're in a state of survival. You're in a state of fear and it can be really hard. So being able to start there with taking small steps to overcome the fear, to move out of procrastination is OK. It's OK if you're there, just know that that's where you are and you need to move out of that first before maybe you can tap into the power of the passion and start to put it into practice.
[00:13:48.310] - Jennifer Maurer
Absolutely. It's such an important part about what we go through - those steps. And that's why I wrote the guide, the first guide. It's more of a guide than an e-book. I designed it to be short, inexpensive, because people don't have a lot of time these days.
[00:14:01.990] - Jennifer Maurer
Right? They just give me the facts. What do I need to do to to get out of this mindset, to think about things a little bit differently, so I can put some of those fears where they belong and move on to the passion. And you're right. It really is. I'm a big believer in breaking everything down into steps. Right. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time, right?
[00:14:21.940] - Teena Evert
Yeah, well, I want to encourage our listeners to tap into that guide - the five steps to freedom from fear. I'm wondering if you can share just like a teaser of that, like what would be maybe one first step, even a baby step towards overcoming something that you're facing that you would label as fear?
[00:14:44.440] - Jennifer Maurer
Well, I think the first thing is to...when it comes to fear is to define it. What I always say, step one, is define. What is fear to you?
[00:14:56.770] - Jennifer Maurer
You know, fear is different things to different people. Some people fear is good - it keeps us from putting our hand in the fire. Yeah, fear can be good. Fear can be lifesaving. To other people fear represents all those irrational fears and those are the ones to deal with. Those are the ones that are counterproductive. Those are the ones where we what-if ourselves to death. So one tip I give people in the guide is you've got to get rid of that thought spiral - that what-if thought spiral we kill ourselves with - well, what if this happens and what if that happens and you can what-if yourself to death. It's literally was talking you out of doing something that's probably going to be really good for you.
[00:15:36.970] - Jennifer Maurer
So defining what fear is to an individual and then identifying what your specific fears are. Sometimes we think we're afraid of one thing, but it's actually something else. You know, you have to keep asking yourself, why are you afraid of that? And usually when you dig deep enough, you'll find that the core fear is not what you originally thought it was. And once you get to the bottom of it, then you can start working on it.
[00:16:01.360] - Teena Evert
Yeah, it's like just bringing enough awareness to it be-friending it, if you will, not running away from it, because if you do, it will still come up at some point down the road.
[00:16:14.650] - Jennifer Maurer
It will. In fact, I even make a reference at some point that this is about putting fear in the friend zone, because it can be your friend, if it's not something that's detrimental to you, it can serve you well. And so it is very important, like you said, and I couldn't agree more with you, embrace it. It is there, it's not going away. We're not putting on any rose colored glasses and saying we're going to rid you of fear for the rest of your life. It's there and it's all around us and so what we do with it, and how we compartmentalize it, and let it affect us is what matters.
[00:16:56.380] - Teena Evert
Yeah, and what an important topic due to the pandemic, I think that people are getting more and more in touch with fear, uncertainty - anxiety has been increasing...so many things. I'm wondering, you know, what have you learned from maybe COVID personally and professionally? How do you think it's changed the landscape of the work that you're doing as an admissions consultant and even in your own business?
[00:17:25.750] - Jennifer Maurer
Yeah, that's a great question, because you're right, COVID changed everything. Nobody nobody was prepared for this - and interestingly enough, I actually started and I finished this guide before COVID even hit, and I just thought, wow, I thought it was needed before and then when COVID hit, and I think that some of us really didn't even realize we had some fears developed some during this whole thing. It's just so unprecedented. And so for me, I feel like for myself and I think for many of us I speak for I think it's taught us a couple of things. I think it's taught us never to take things for granted. I think a lot of things that we took for granted before we no longer take for granted. I think we're more adaptable than we first thought. I think if you told many of us here in the beginning what we'd be giving up or doing differently, we have said, noway, can't do that, that will never happen - and here we are, I think, surprising ourselves with how we've adapted and how we've managed through this whole thing. Which is, by the way, both those things are very positive. I feel like every cloud has a silver lining.
[00:18:41.130] - Jennifer Maurer
It's up to us to find it and I think this has forced us to find it. I know many of my students I talk with, they say, you know, I'm I'm sitting here, I'm working from home or not working at all and just stuck at home and it's really forced me to evaluate where I'm at, where I've been, and where I want to be. And I think this pandemic has given us that opportunity to really regroup and maybe take a pause and create a way to better ourselves, where otherwise we would have been so caught up in the grind that thought process never would have happened. So in that respect, you know, you can tell I'm an eternal optimist. I'm not picking apart the stuff that's bad, I'm really trying to focus on, the stuff that we can get from this and what you know, what I've taken from it.
[00:19:28.890] - Jennifer Maurer
From a professional standpoint, it really loused me up - I mean, I'm a public speaker, right? So this thing came to a screeching halt. And so that's what, again, the adaptability factor comes into play where you say, OK, so I got dealt this, how am I going to get my message out? What should I do? You know, instead of maybe instead of going out and doing public speaking, how can I get help out there to people? How can I get my message out? I'll try the podcasting thing and it turns out I love it.
[00:20:00.790] - Teena Evert
Yeah, everything you said, I couldn't agree more. It's like the opportunity to just reassess where you are, where do you want to go, and really allowing things to unfold without being attached to how they unfold and also really looking for other opportunities. You know, like if you're a public speaker and you really have this desire and need to speak and you can't get out on a stage, then what do you do? There's so many other options and when we feel like we don't have option we feel stuck and that's where we can stay in a state of overwhelm and maybe procrastinate or not really feel like we have what we need to face the fears. I think, you know, fear is an interesting word. I don't know if I use it a lot in my life, but I do have fears, obviously, and I know I have fears because I feel anxious when I start to feel fear.
[00:21:06.360] - Teena Evert
There have been times in my life where I would feel terror and that's different. When I have felt that, boy, that's tough. That's where I need to actually really reach out and get some professional support because my default is to sabotage or self-destruct in some way, shape or form. Like all of a sudden it's the trauma. Like I have no resources, I think I have no resources. It's been a long time since I've been there but that's a different that's like a like 10x fear. But I think fear can be a really good indicator of something needs to shift or change or, you know, it can be an opportunity for opening. For sure.
[00:21:48.570] - Jennifer Maurer
For sure, I mean, I actually kind of created or came up with, I guess, an acronym for Fear - FEAR, and it's the Foreboding Emotion Annihilating Results.
[00:22:02.790] - Teena Evert
Say that again.
[00:22:04.050] - Jennifer Maurer
Forboting Emotion Annihilating Results - and I came up with that because I thought about what fear meant to me and for me, it's when I was at the height of my inspiration and I was really excited about doing something.
[00:22:24.460] - Jennifer Maurer
It's that foreboding feeling that comes over you that starts to tell you why you can't do something or what happens if you fail. It's that foreboding Ugh-oh that immediately just shuts you down and it annihilates any result you could have had as a result of putting in some effort on it. It talks you out of doing things that are good for you. It is really your enemy. One of the quotes from the book or the guide is that, "fear is that ruthless thief that creeps in the back of your mind at the height of inspiration and robs you blind".
[00:23:00.760] - Teena Evert
Wow,well, said, wow.
[00:23:03.910] - Jennifer Maurer
So it kind of ties in with what you were just talking about it's different than terror it's different from other types of fears, but it is very real.
[00:23:12.320] - Teena Evert
Yeah. And I think that, you know, we all respond to fear differently, just like stress. It's like what is our level of tolerance? And what is your default when you're pushed into survival mode? I was having a conversation earlier today and we were talking about how maybe the pandemic has impacted people's career development or planning and I said, well, you know, the pandemic has certainly added a layer of stress for a lot of people - and some of us are able to better regulate stress and manage stress and all that - and the same with our energy - and it's caused us, I think most people to, like you said earlier, to be able to adapt and be flexible and overcome obstacles, climb hills that they never thought were possible and that can be really liberating. And it creates a transformation that I have loved seeing not only in my own life, but in the people that I've worked with, it'slike we've had to really dig deep inside of ourselves to create change that's within our control.
[00:24:19.680] - Jennifer Maurer
Yeah, I couldn't agree more, and I've seen it in my clients and my students, some people struggle a little bit more with it than others. But the thing to remember is that we always have a choice. We always have a choice. Do we take advantage of our circumstances and find that way to make lemonade out of lemons or do we just admit defeat? And, you know, there's a couple of things that always kind of stand out in my mind quotes - one of them is by Henry Ford, "Whether you think you can or whether you think you can't, you're right." And I've always kind of remembered that and lived by that, because we have so much more control over our outcome than we think we do.
[00:25:05.610] - Teena Evert
That's so true. That's a really good reminder, especially when we're feeling that fear creeping in and taking over and we feel like, oh, my God, I have no choice. It's a terrible feeling. It takes the breath right out of you. Like you said, absolute annihilation. Wow. Well, I have a couple of career confidence questions for you. I would love you to just share what the first thing that comes to mind and you can elaborate if you'd like. I want imagine, Jennifer, that you are your younger self. and if you could have received one piece of critical advice or perhaps inspiration when you were just starting your education or your career journey, what would it be?
[00:25:45.450] - Jennifer Maurer
Don't buy in too much to the status quo. I mean, when you first starting out, you want to follow the rules, of course, you want to kind of stick to standard and policy, but also remember that what's really going to set you apart is your uniqueness. And it's that thing that makes you you you're bringing to the table something nobody else on this planet has - and there's a spin or a way of doing it - however, minuscule it might be, it's something that makes you unique. So I guess I would say don't get too caught up. I love that expression. I didn't get the memo and I've been most successful in my life when I didn't get the memo that said I was supposed to do it this way or this is the way everybody else does it or this is the way nineteen hundred people before you did it. Well I didn't get the memo, I just did me and whenever I did, that's when I found my greatest successes.
[00:26:44.020] - Teena Evert
Yeah, that's great. That's a great piece of advice. Yeah. I mean, I wish that I had some encouragement and guidance around that one piece, even way back when I was in high school, because we're so caught up in the status quo and man, even nowadays, I can't imagine, like if I had social media when I was, a pre-teen.
[00:27:03.950] - Jennifer Maurer
Oh, it's even tougher today for these kids.I got to tell you, all the pressure now.! They're setting a whole new status quo and you're getting it from every different direction. You don't even know which status quo to follow. So I guess that advice would be even more relevant today than it was when I was younger. Weed out all the noise, all the static, stay true to and focus on what makes you unique and don't imitate - don't go out and try to be like everybody else because there is only one you - and that is a rock star! There's a rock star there and so that's who you have to get in touch with. There's one other thing that when I was younger, if somebody would have said to me, because I kind of came across this on my own and, I use I still use it, but it's kind of a jolter and it's an expression - "if you don't know where you want to be in five years, you're already there".
[00:28:03.930] - Teena Evert
So would you encourage someone to really think about where they want to be?
[00:28:08.130] - Jennifer Maurer
Yeah, absolutely. meaning if you don't think about it, if you don't take action, then in five years you're going to be exactly where you are right now. And if you're happy with where you're at right now - that's great. Know five years from now, I want to still be, you know, raising my kids and still doing my job that I love. And I'm not saying that's always a bad thing, but for people that are procrastinators, for people, I design this for procrastinators because there's a lot of us out there - and I say us because, I've been guilty myself. You sit there and you say, OK, I'll do it next year or I'll do it two years or I'll I'll think about it later - I'll figure that out later. What happens is a day turns into a week, a week turns into a month, a month turns into a year and no wfive years from now - do you want to look back and say, I'm in the same spot I was five years ago , still wishing, hoping, dreaming? Maybe not.
[00:28:57.030] - Teena Evert
Absolutely not. Yeah, and if you keep doing the same thing, nothing changes. So you have to realize you have to take action. Powerful, wow! You know, one thing I was going to say when you were talking about - not being caught up in the status quo is a simple thing that I do. I like to cook, I like to bake specifically or just cook healthy foods and the first time I try a new recipe, I follow it to the tee. But then immediately afterwards, I make it my own and I try to remember that with a lot of things. So like maybe I'm going to go on a new route on my bike. I will follow the route that's showing up on my computer. I'll follow every every direction, every turn. But then I will mix it up the next time I do it, I'll find my own sort of style or way I want to go about it. And so I just maybe encourage our listeners to think of different ways they can apply that in their life to bring your own signature to it or style or flair, uniqueness, that that's OK it kind of gives you a different way to express yourself in the world - and it's not going to do any harm to anybody that's going to maybe bring some joy to your life.
[00:30:11.960] - Jennifer Maurer
Absolutely. You can never go wrong by doing that I think and it ties in perfectly with what we talked about a couple of minutes ago with, you know, not necessarily following that status quo and making something your own. You don't have to make giant steps here. You know, I love your point. Baby steps. It can be the tiniest little adjustment you make in your day. And same with overcoming your fears and things like that. Everybody thinks they have they have these monumental results overnight. My students and my clients are much harder on themselves than I that I am on them. I'm constantly having to tell them, give yourself a break, you know, have some patience, baby steps, you know, work up to things. Don't expect so much of yourself. It took a long time for you to get to the spot. You're not going to change it overnight. And the smallest effort can yield the greatest results as well, as you know.
[00:30:59.770] - Teena Evert
Yeah, that's good stuff. Good stuff. OK, here's the second question. In order to gain confidence and build a meaningful career, what would be the one thing that you would recommend listeners do?
[00:31:13.330] - Jennifer Maurer
I would say, absolutely, ake stock in your talent and whatever you feel strongly about, your convictions, remind yourself often what you bring to the table. Don't harp on that area or areas where you think that you're weak. Know you're worth - know what value you add to the equation. Stay focused on what you bring to the table, because when you believe it, they believe it.
[00:31:43.210] - Teena Evert
Yeah, and it also reminds me that, you know, you don't have to be good at everything. So if there's something that you don't feel good at, you know, I used to do this - I would say, oh, my gosh, I have to be good at everything. I don't know why I thought that. So then I would hyper focus on the things that I wasn't good at and then I would improv, but then I would say I don't even like this. So I'd say focus on your strengths, but also more importantly, like, what is it that you enjoy? So that you can continue to develop whatever that is and grow into it and expand.
[00:32:18.010] - Jennifer Maurer
And make no apologies, it's OK. I'm not good at that, tthat's me. You know, but I am good at this, this is what I can bring. Nobody expects perfection out of anybody. We expected of ourselves, unfortunately, but it's unrealistic. Embrace what what you're good at and also embrace what you're not so good at. It's ok.
[00:32:37.120] - Teena Evert
I love it. You make me feel so good. It's ok.
[00:32:40.190] - Jennifer Maurer
It's ok. It's ok. It's OK. It's all going to be ok.
[00:32:44.500] - Teena Evert
Ah I love that it's so calming. Oh all right. Last question. In order to help people who feel stuck in their career or a job search process, what would be the one tip or strategy for them to get unstuck today?
[00:32:58.520] - Jennifer Maurer
Oh, and I was there so I know, believe me and it's frustrating. It's frustrating, so drink a glass of water or whatever your drink of choice is - I'm not promoting anything.
[00:33:11.050] - Jennifer Maurer
You know, what comes to mind when you're stuck in your wedge right, is what? How do you get something unstuck? You've got to kick the heck out of it. You've got to mash it. You got to move it. You've got to you've got to throw it around a little bit, reconfigure it. And that's what you have to do with your mindset. You know, when you're stuck, get a step away, take a deep breath. This is the time that you're going to put your think-outside-the-box-cap on and, you know, what am I doing that's not working? What can I try? That's different and this is the time that you're talking about stepping out of the comfort zone and being uncomfortable and maybe marketing yourself in a different way, maybe trying a different profession, getting into something you think you may not like, but maybe different for you. It might be a stretch for you. You know, if it's all about getting out there and making money, you can't be picky sometimes. You go on to something and consider something that maybe you think you're not good at - maybe you are. Maybe through that another door or window opens. So I would just say, you know, really kick the heck out of your mindset, kick into, you know, kind of think outside of the comfort zone and come up with different ways to market yourself. And, you know, Google can be a great way to do that, too. Nowadays, when people have questions, how can I market myself differently? What's a better way to get in for an interview?
[00:34:30.040] - Jennifer Maurer
That's the other thing. Brush up on your interview skills and some of your writing skills. You got to grab the attention. It's not like the old days. You could walk into an establishment, ask to speak to the manager and set up an interview. Here's my resume. Right. We've got the black hole called the Internet now where people are telling you, oh, go home and log in our website and drop your resume through the website.
[00:34:51.400] - Jennifer Maurer
You've now more than ever have to stand out and find ways to make your uniqueness shine.
[00:34:57.460] - Teena Evert
Yeah, and I think bringing it back to some simple points is like when you're stuck in that wedge. I love that image. How do you get out of there? You're going to probably really quickly assess, well, this isn't working and if I keep doing this, I'm going to get even more stuck. So what's working and maybe you don't know right away, but you're moving away or leading away from what isn't working. And, you know, we can always assess in our life what isn't working and what is working and we can choose what we want to focus on. And, you know, boy, I just had this great image of being stuck in like a slot canyon in Utah and kind of wedged in there and thank god it wasn't permanent, right, ut like, how do you solve that problem? How do you navigate that obstacle? Yeah, how do you shake it up a little bit? And sometimes that means we have to ask for support. Sometimes we don't have what we need and that's OK too. Sometimes, it's not about doing it all on our own.
[00:35:52.720] - Teena Evert
Wow, well, you are so wise, so, so wise from not only your education but your life experience and I so appreciate you sharing and I'm sure our listeners are gaining a lot of value as well. And I'm wondering if there's a way for the listeners to connect with you and to continue to keep learning from you?
[00:36:16.960] - Jennifer Maurer
There is - I through all this, created a website and I did it all on my own. I'm actually really proud of it. That was one of my pet projects. I want to build my own website. I use the colors I wanted. I just made it all about me, not someone else - some marketing person coming in and saying, oh, you should have this or have that.
[00:36:33.370] - Teena Evert
So you got your own memo.
[00:36:35.080] - Jennifer Maurer
I did not get the memo about how to do the website, so I just did it the way I wanted to, but yeah, the website is www.Jennifer.Mauerer.net. I tried to keep it nice and simple. The website, like I said, it's just, it's kind of a culmination of me. I've got a gallery in there of some of my favorite inspirational quotes. I have a link that you can click on to find access to the Five Steps to Freedom from Fear Guide that I wrote. With that comes access to my Facebook group where I'm going - in fact, I just started that - where I'm going to be doing some coaching within the Facebook group itself and jus helping people with day to day type of issues and problems they might have. And what else is on there - I have a blog I love to write. I didn't mention that, I'm a writer and once upon a time ago, I was a celebrity interviewer - so I had the opportunity to work with some really fun folks and in my blog and my website is not even necessarily about coaching or negative stuff or anything, you know, problems, whatever, that is really having to do more with whatever I feel like writing about - it could be abouut Jennifer Lopez, it could be about the power of reinvention, whatever I feel like. So there's access to that there, too. So anything it all starts with just the website for my work.
[00:37:52.830] - Teena Evert
Oh, great. Well, thanks for sharing and I'll be sure to provide that link in the show notes for people to click right on and the head, right over to get some inspiration. I have one more question for you. I keep saying one more. One more. But do you have one last golden nugget of wisdom that you'd like to share with our audience?
[00:38:13.860] - Jennifer Maurer
I have two. The first one is because for me, examining why is so important, it keeps us on task. It keeps us focused, it keeps us going. People don't buy what you do. They buy why you do it. And that's not by me. That is by Simon Sinek wrote the book - Start With Why.
[00:38:33.270] - Teena Evert
[00:38:35.350] - Jennifer Maurer
Always, always look at the why, that'll get you right back home. The second and the last one is - you get what you settle for.
[00:38:46.680] - Teena Evert
You get what you settle for - that is the truth. Wow. Well thank you Jennifer. Thank you so much for your time, your energy, and all of your wisdom. It's been a real delight having you on the Confident Careerist podcast.
[00:38:59.130] - Jennifer Maurer
Thank you, Teena so much, and thank you to your listeners as well.
[00:39:02.640] - Teena Evert
In this episode, Jennifer Mauerer and I talked about how fear can obstruct your dreams and goals and practical ways to free yourself from this potentially self-destructive cycle. Jennifer is super smart, insightful and shares relatable examples from her own life, as she learned how to free herself from fears that kept her living small.
[00:39:25.910] - Teena Evert
I hope that you enjoyed our conversation as much as I did and that you're taking away a thing or two to inspire you to take action and improve the quality of your life.
[00:39:41.230] - Teena Evert
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Jennifer Maurer is an established Certified Life Coach, a collegiate admissions consultant, and author of “5 Steps to Freedom From Fear,” a simple guide to removing the obstacles that prevent us from realizing our fullest potential. Jennifer has worked with clients across the U.S. in the corporate and private sector mentoring on topics such as The Power of Reinvention, Overcoming Fear and Procrastination, and Finding Your Passion Principles. Jennifer currently resides in Chicago, IL.